Kris Jenner On How To Be A Boss
Kourt: We’re ready.
Kourt: So this is my first Poosh interview,
Kris: Oh my gosh!
Kourt: You’re the lucky winner.
Kris: I feel honored! Thank you for having me Kourtney Kardashian.
Kourt: Our—-Our Poosh team felt that, they were.. Dying for a Kris Jenner interview.
Kris: Oh ok, awesome. I hope I can deliver.
Kourt: So, this interview is about, being a boss\
Kourt: and how to be a boss and so, we wanted to know, what is your—do you have like a
work motto..that you live by or that…
Kris: Well, my—my general motto, in my life for years has been if somebody says no, you’re
talking to the wrong person… and I think that there’s so many times in life that I have taken no
for an answer and regretted it later…and I think the older you get and the more experienced
you become, in life and as a mom, or in business or anything that you’re doing in your life, you
just become more mature…… and, being a boss,
Kourt: Like, you have more wisdom?
Kris: Yes! It’s more wisdom, but more experience because being a boss and being in charge is a brave thing to do. Like some days I wake up and I think about, the meetings that I’m going to have or the experience I’m about to have or what I needed to do that day, whether it’s firing someone, hiring someone, guiding someone, creating something new…..
Kris: Can we not do that?!………..
Kourt: Umm.. that’s how you be a boss.
Kris: So, quiet on the set!… So I think that, umm, just doing some of the things that I have to do during the day. I get up in the morning and I think, “this is gonna be a really long ass day.” and, it’s sometimes very scary, to you know, just step up and do some of the things that we all do, every single day\
Kourt: I know that Khloe and I, to get through a long day, we only think of the next thing that we have ahead, instead of the whole day so we think, “ok, what’s next?” and like, we don’t even look at our schedules for the whole day, we’re just like, “ok, this is what’s next, this is what’s next,” to get through it\
Kris: One thing at a time.
Kourt: Do you do that?
Kris: Oh no, I have to—- the moment I get up\
Kourt: I mean I know what my day is, but to get through it, I can’t focus, like, “and then I have this at 4’oclock,” I have to get through each thing and I know Khloe says she does the same.
Kris: One step at a time. I think it’s whatever gets you through the day.
Kris: I think that’s the perfect answer. But I think that also, you know, like, our entire family we’re all—- we prepare for a very long day. Like, I’ll get up at 4:30 or 5:00 in the morning and jump up, have coffee, check my emails real quick\
Kris: Hop on the treadmill, turn on the news, get caught up with what’s going on, so I feel like I’ve done my cardio, I’m prepared, you know, mentally and emotionally and physically, to go tackle a day. Be informed about what’s going on in the world\
Kris: Be informed about what’s going on with my kids\
Kourt: Is that while you’re on the treadmill?
Kris: Uh huh, I do a lot of that so I’m all caught up and that takes— if I can be on that treadmill for 45 minutes to an hour, it’s golden. Do a few weights, hop off, shower, glam, film. You know, it’s like I have this routine in the morning, and I think as human beings, we’re really, you know, we thrive on routine. I think that routines are very important for people to have some kind of a thing or ritual that you either do at the beginning of the day\
Kris: and it’s also very important, and I know you do this with your kids, it’s important to be able to have a wind down.
Kris: So that you can mentally\
Kourt: We do a big wind down..
Kris: You gotta have a wind down, and mine is a wine down, if you know what I mean…*winks*
Kourt: Turned into a vodka down.
Kris: A vodka down, yeah now it’s a vodka down.
Kourt: But, it used to be a wine down.
Kris: That’s right.
Kourt: Now yours is a vodka down.
Kris: It’s a VD.
Kourt: Uh, so one thing I don’t think people realize is that I used to be your assistant, and that I learned so much from you about being a boss, and that I just remembered that, you know, I don’t take no for an answer, I learned that from you because—- and I think that’s an important thing, for any boss woman to know.
Kris: Anything is possible.
Kourt: Anybody to know, but—to—I really have a hard time taking the answer no, and it’s about knowing how to get the answer yes.
Kris: and it’s exhausting. It’s a lot of work to get a yes.
Kourt: It is.
Kris: and then when you get the yes, you— you know–you have to—-it’s a commitment. So, I think that, you know, just—first of all when you were my assistant, that was such a great experience for me too, because I knew that you were soaking it in. You were like, such a great little student\
Kourt: and I learned so much about being organized\
Kourt: Just listening to you on the phone, closing deals, and you know, getting your way or someone didn’t pay you, how to get them to pay you. You know, different things, ummm, that I remember learning and my other question since you mentioned firing people… is it hard for you to fire somebody or do you—when you just–because it’s hard for me to fire somebody.
Kris: It’s really hard, and I’ve learned, ummm, you know, that—-listen, you really want people to come onto your team or be apart of your business organization or your household, whatever it is, and work out. You want things to work out\
Kris: You hire someone with great, you know, confidence and anticipation that that’s gonna be a great match, and sometimes it’s not. Whether it’s the chemistry between two people or the skill set that someone has doesn’t match the—what you need, or you know, things like that, and I think that it’s a very– it’s also a very brave thing to do, to just pay attention and get the right match for whatever position you need filled, and if it’s not working then\
Kourt: to know…
Kris: To know and to cut it off before it’s too late.
Kourt: I’m not good at that, I let things linger on….
Kris: No lingering around here.
Kourt: I wait too long.
Kris: Lingering is bad. You have to face the fact, that that person might not be the right fit, and then very kindly say, “Look, you’re great, I wanted this to work, it didn’t workout, and I wish you the best.” You know, and just try to make it a real positive experience, because I always think of putting myself on the side of the person who’s being fired, and that’s gotta be really hard.
Kourt: It’s not necessarily that they’re wrong, they’re just wrong for the\
Kris: For the— for that particular position.
Kris: Just if you can really get somebody to understand that. It’s like you’re not gonna, I’m not gonna hire somebody for Kylie cosmetics, that is great at being a toy manufacturer. You know, it’s just never gonna work\
Kourt: Two more questions, because you’re a busy woman and so am I.
Kris: Oh my goodness.
Kourt: So, what career advice would you give your younger self?
Kris: Well, my younger self had six kids, so my career was being a mom, and that I wouldn’t change for anything in the world..But, what I would really tell your younger self and all of your friends\
Kris: Is, find—-really, truly find something that you love to do, and then figure out how to make that into an amazing career, because that’s gonna be so easy. You know, when you try to fit into a mold that you don’t really belong in, you don’t really love or appreciate, you’re not passionate about it, I think that, you know that’s gonna be harder to do and—and excel at that career. But, I think if you really find something that you love to do.. I was talking to somebody the other day and somebody said, “Well what’s Rob been doing?” and I said “Oh, you know, he’s just, you know doing this and that, working on this, working on that.” and he–they said, “What does he really like to do?” and I said, “Honestly, play video games. He loves video games.” and they said, “Do you know what’s heating up in the video game business?” Blah blah blah, and all the sudden we had this business conversation going on and I never expected it and it came out of the clear blue sky, because of what one of my kids, likes to do.
Kourt: Yeah, I think everybody has a gift, and is here but you’re right finding your passion and getting paid for that so that you have— I think that’s the way to have the happiest life, if you\
Kris: It’s easy and you can get– you can make a career, or get paid for, or encourage someone else and create your own community or your company, or whatever it is you want to do, by sharing with like-minded friends. It’s just like you with Poosh now, you know, I’m so proud of you. But, all these things I see you and Sam and Sarah in your meetings, and you’re all so excited about the future, and about you know, the potential of your, you know the website and everything else\
Kris: and you get so excited about that, and that’s how you should feel everyday when you go to work, it’s a gift.
Kourt: and even at night, when I know I’m really into something, like I’ll just be–I get this excited energy where it’s like, look then I have to do this, then I have to do this, then this, but it’s like enjoyable\
Kris: Exciting! And you keep a little—- I say keep a pad and paper next to your bed at all times. I wake up, in the middle of the night with my best ideas, and those are the ones I can’t wait until 6’oclock in the morning until somebody’s available on the phone, because I’m on the— I’m still writing at 4:30\
Kourt: Oh, that’s why you text me so early and you’re like, “I’m not hearing back from you!”
Kris: Yes! I get excited about projects and things but I—I too will wake up in the middle of the night and I write everything down. And then, in the morning I try—I try to decipher my list, because it’s scribble scrabble.
Kourt: Last question.
Kourt: What would you like, to Poosh yourself to do more?
Kris: Well, I think I would like to Poosh myself….\
Kourt: It doesn’t have to only be work related, like is it, it could be working out, it could be..\
Kris: I want to Poosh myself to spend more time with my grandchildren,
Kris: I think they live so close that I think, “Oh, i’ll see them tomorrow!” You know, but I just want to really make, umm, fun things to do.
Kris: You know, to go take, like I want to spend more time with Mason, because we have fun together.. Take P somewhere, but that’s a goal. And, I want to Poosh myself to exercise more because I think the older I get, it’s really important to pay attention to my health and my cardiovascular, so I want to do that, that’s important to me. And.. I think I just want to Poosh myself to umm— to eat better.
Kris: Those are my personal things.
Kourt: Thanks mom.
Kris: Thank you! I’ll give you a little kiss!\
Kourt: First interview.
Kourt & Kris: Muah!
Kris: You did a great job!
Kourt: Thank you!
Kris: Good questions!
Kourt: Thank you!
Kris: I liked it.